“You Could Have Saved Us”: Did One ‘Avengers: Age of Ultron’ Scene Foreshadow Tony Will Become a Bad Guy at Some Point?

As a long-time Marvel enthusiast who has followed the saga from its humble beginnings, I must say that the prospect of Robert Downey Jr.’s return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe is nothing short of exhilarating. The comics have always been rich with intrigue and surprise, and it seems that the movies are following suit.


The news that Robert Downey Jr. will rejoin the Marvel Cinematic Universe remains one of the most thrilling stories in entertainment news, and rightly so. There’s been a lot of buzz surrounding Downey and the future of the MCU, as it seems promising once more due to this fantastic announcement. This revelation, confirming Marvel’s success at San Diego Comic-Con this year, has everyone speculating about what’s in store for the franchise.

However, while many are focusing on the future and debating Victor von Doom’s influence on the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), it’s worth revisiting the past as well. The fact that Downey will portray two characters within the MCU might hold some potential significance.

As a die-hard Avengers fan, I can’t forget that chilling scene from Avengers: Age of Ultron, where I found myself staring at a vision conjured by Scarlet Witch – a nightmare scenario of my dearest friends meeting their end, while I miraculously survived. It got me thinking, was this grim spectacle a subtle hint at Stark’s eventual villainous transformation in the upcoming movies?

To ensure we’re all on the same page, let me share the scenario we’re referring to. This should help clarify our discussion:

As a devoted fan, I must express that the scene powerfully portrayed Tony Stark’s deepest fear – losing his friends, a dread that was poignantly emphasized when Captain America uttered: “You could have prevented this…”, even though it’s not something Cap would typically say. Regardless, those words resonated profoundly, and although the means for Stark to save everyone at that exact moment remained unclear, the impact of those words lingered.

Currently, the exact involvement of Doom in the Marvel Cinematic Universe remains uncertain, leaving fans to speculate on how Marvel Studios might address the fact that main MCU heroes are likely familiar with Tony Stark’s appearance. It could be that his face will never be seen or Marvel may choose to overlook this detail altogether. Consequently, there’s plenty of room for intriguing theories.

In simpler terms, what we’ve prepared for discussion indicates that this particular scene hints at Robert Downey Jr.’s transformation into a villain in the show’s narrative, and it subtly refers to an upcoming event.

Although it seems like we’re pushing the boundaries a bit, it’s not entirely implausible that Marvel subtly foreshadowed this connection years ago. Piecing together various clues, especially Ultron’s comments from back then, could potentially form a consistent narrative that clarifies Doom’s arrival and Downey’s casting.

The only issue we have with this theory is that Downey’s return and Doom’s inclusion seemed like an ad hoc plan to save the MCU after a series of flops and Majors’ firing, so we don’t think that they planned so far ahead, but maybe they will retroactively connect the dots.

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2024-08-25 15:43